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    Posted: 11 May 2009 at 6:13pm
I have just tried the tapered leader in a cunning plan to cut back on the effect of weed on the leader knot and find the knot i normally use to tie a leader is not too good and has so far pulled through 3 timesAngry. Any suggestions on what knot to use ???
Normally use a uni knot and it has never let me down before>
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Why didn't you say you were using the 'normal' leader knot? Ray and I are both using tapered leader with the full blood knot and not had Knot problemsConfused. I'm still not convinced that tapered leaders are as good as standard stuff, with standard leader once you have some on the reel you know where you are, with tapered you can have 3 or 4 turns on the reel and still have 18-20lb line going through the rings so you line is not as strong as you may think it is.
 
Tapered is very good with weed though, no big ball of the stuff around the knot
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will give that a go instead
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"Ray and I are both using tapered leader with the full blood knot and not had Knot problems"

Uuummm ... I did a series of tests on knots for TSF (not published); but the double blood knot came out at 50%'ish for parallel .35mm joins while a 4 turn Grinner to Grinner was 85% of stated BS.

I always use Grinner to Grinner (but I double over if using braid) ....




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2009 at 10:13am
I've always found that the blood knot work for me with a tapered leader. However I've also found that if you're tying at home then a tiny spot of super glue on the knot works a treat.
 
I've never found that it effects the line and the knot never comes undone. Wink
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Just take your blood loop joins and give a smart pull apart.
It invariably snaps at about half the breaking strain ... it's very noticeable with .35 (15lbs) mono.

Do the same with Grinner to Grinner and it needs almost twice the force!

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For what it's worth, I have been using the Albright knot for three years now. Not one failure that I can recall (even under load from weed) and it makes a pretty neat knot.
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Does it work on mono to mono ok then? I've just started using it on my boat reels as a braid to mono leader knot and found it really good. I'm sure someone told me it's not so good on just mono.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eccles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2009 at 9:46pm
Yes eky, well all I can say is it works with greased weasel which I use for shockers and the Okuma Ultramax which I use for mainline. However, I believe that it could be important that the "whipping" or turns if you will, should be made with the mainline and not the shock line which of course is just formed into a simple loop.
I expect this will attract some comment but no matter: Some of my Albrights are at least six months old. 
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Cool. I'm going to give it try. It is a very small neat knot and very easy to tie.
 
As for your knots being 6 months old.........not very snaggy on Hayling thenLOL
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