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    Posted: 22 April 2009 at 9:00pm
Can we encourage Solent anglers to return all smoothounds - especially females?  The males are identified by their long claspers underneath.  I have kept and eaten female smoothounds in the past, but in the interests of conservation, I have vowed not to do so again.  Also, I read on here of anglers returning large female bream.  Not that I've caught any large bream (...yet! - although a 6.5lb river Avon bream probably doesn't count) but if I do, how do I identify male/female bream?
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Are smoothies in short supply?   It is one of the fish I actually catch. I can't seem to catch much else (cept dog-fish that is).
 
I always put them back. They don't look like food. They are too good looking I suppose.
 
Now how about returning all cod caught. Clap 
 
I haven't actually seen one caught in the last two years. No., that isn't true. I saw one caught when I was on a charter boat 2 years ago. We were off the french coast miles out from Newhaven.
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Male bream have a blue flash near the eyes.

The larger bream are the early season ones, so go for them now if you want decent sized ones. Rough ground is generally the key.
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MICHAEL1923 - Any tips on baits / rigs for bream?
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the reason smoothounds are so plentiful much like dogfish is that most of them are returned alive
gone are the days of whacking anything over the head that moves & taking home for the trophy value even if it does not taste good!

 

     
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Originally posted by Wet Wheels Wet Wheels wrote:

MICHAEL1923 - Any tips on baits / rigs for bream?
Any rig that holds the bait 2 to 3 feet off the bottom using short flowing traces with number 1 to 2/0 hooks.
 
Another good rig is to get ordinary mackerel feathers and bait them up with squid and drift them along slowly. I have found that deadly over deep-water wrecks when fishing off a charter boat.
 
I was trying that today at Browndown but it didn't work.
 
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Smutts give such a heart wrenching scrap, they should always be put back, I feel they earn their return 100%. I have never eaten one, and even if they was good on a plate I would`nt as they are great scrappers and a beautifull looking fish to go with it.
MMMMMMM, Bream, there good scrappers, taste good, mmmmmm forget what I just said...... no I could`nt do in a Smutt.
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These are my tactics for bream, everyone has there own.

1 up 1 down rig with size 6 circle hooks and strips of squid, simple as that. Feel the bite give them line count 15secs and bingo bream on.

Lots of people use slightly larger hooks with party squid on, secret is small hooks for small mouths.
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Originally posted by rossco999 rossco999 wrote:

the reason smoothounds are so plentiful much like dogfish is that most of them are returned alivegone are the days of whacking anything over the head that moves & taking home for the trophy value even if it does not taste good! 


i agree, dont think i know anyone who keeps smoothies
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Black bream ....

MALE -



FEMALE -



Some news yesterday regarding 'shark species'/Elasmobranchii (rays etc) ...

23/04/2009 16:13
Department for Environment, Food And Rural Affairs (National)
(DEFRA) European plan to protect sharks welcomed

UK Fisheries Minister Huw Irranca-Davies, today welcomed the adoption of the Council Conclusions on the EU Shark Action Plan.

Huw Irranca-Davies said
"We must do all we can to protect and sustainably manage these vulnerable species. I am delighted that Council Conclusions on the Action Plan have been adopted, and am personally pleased to see a commitment in the conclusions to reviewing the Council Regulation on shark finning.

"It is essential that this regulation is strengthened to ensure the wasteful practice of removing fins and discarding the carcass at sea cannot occur and I will also be considering if the UK should cease to issue special fishing permits that allow fins to be removed at sea.

"The UK will be working hard to ensure that the plan produces robust, workable and effective measures."

The Shark Action Plan includes measures to:
1. Ensure that directed fisheries for shark are sustainable and that by-catches from other fisheries are properly regulated;

2. Improve knowledge both on shark fisheries and on shark species and their role in the ecosystem;

3. To encourage a consistent approach inside and out EC waters with endorsement from Regional Fisheries Management Organisations and others.

Welcoming the announcement, Ali Hood Director of Conservation at the Shark Trust said:

"A coherent approach to shark conservation and management is long overdue and the Community Plan of Action for Sharks represents a framework for positive action, what we urgently need now is demonstrations of commitment by Member States to deliver on the promises of the Council Conclusions. The Shark Trust was pleased by the degree of support demonstrated by the UK Government who sought every opportunity to ensure the Council Conclusions could deliver on the plans potential.

"The Trust is encouraged that the Council have prioritised the need for a revision of the shark finning ban, and its associated derogations, which currently allow the removal of shark fins at sea through the allocation of Special Fishing Permits. The Shark Trust will continue to advocate for the UK Government to cease the provision of Special Fishing Permits, the UK registered holders of which currently land over 80 tonnes of shark fins per year.

"Although the Council's proposal to improve the knowledge on sharks and their role in the ecosystem is welcomed, the Trust is concerned that some member States may use the need for increased data collection as an excuse to maintain the status quo - with over 30% of Europe's sharks already threatened with extinction in the wild one certainty is that action is required as a matter of urgency."

Notes to Editors:

1. The Community's Plan of Action for sharks, skates, rays and chimaeras was released on the 6th of February this year. The plan is a framework document that sets out a range of potential measures (both mandatory and voluntary) to be implemented at Member State, European Community level and within Regional Management Organisations. A number of the measures will be introduced through new legislative proposals or by amending existing legislation.

2. The UK was successful in amending these conclusions to instil a focus on science, a clear timetable for the implementation of the plan of action and the provision of progress reports, as we see these areas as key the success of the plans three policy aims.

3. The Shark Trust: Established in 1997, the Shark Trust is the UK registered charity which works to advance the worldwide conservation of sharks, skates and rays through science, education, influence and action. The Trust is led by a board of Trustees who oversee a small dedicated team, who are further supported by a voluntary Scientific Committee, and a growing number of supporters and volunteers.

4. The Trust works through cross-sectoral collaboration and where possible works with governments and industry to attain sustainable goals.

For images and interviews with the Shark Trust please contact Ali Hood, Director of Conservation 01752 672020 ali@sharktrust.org

Public enquiries 08459 335577


Sorry it's a long one, but thought the 'smutty boys' might be interested.

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