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Originally posted by gazzagary gazzagary wrote:

I understand that Chichister harbour master takes an active role and tells drifting boats to stop and that does the trick for that harbour, they could do the same in our harbour if we could convince them to be active. 


I've had my boat there 3 years in the entrance, prob been out 70 times, I've seen the harbour master in the water 5/6 times tops and that was because people had not paid there dues, that' seems to be more important than anything else in the harbour which is pretty sad to be honest.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gazzagary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2013 at 10:24pm
shame they do not do that in Langstone too, a few cautions and a record of the boats repeatedly drifting.  could be reported to fisheries for investigation and education,  could make a difference, without the need for a prosecution which appears hard to prove the way the regs are written according to the bass club report. 

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Perhaps we should get our club (SSAC) to take this up with the harbour master, no reason why they can not be more active on the bass front if their chichester counterparts at least try. I remember we had a nominated person on some sort of Langstone Harbour board liason group a few years back.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote one.watt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2013 at 11:03pm
Originally posted by skillpot skillpot wrote:

ive never seen one in langstone, heard of a few mates stopped in
chichester tho. in the summer ive seen as many as 20 boats drifting the
run, i dont know how they could control it. or prove it for that matter unless your fish box is stuffed with bass or sandeels. i wont have either, not worth it.


I've been stopped by fisheries in langstone before, so they do patrol. It was 10pm though and I had just got in with a boat full of bass but it goes to show there active
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I find these sorts of conversations or suggestions a bit worrying to a degree as enforcement of fisheries is not the responsibility of the harbour masters. Langstone seem to have a major issue with their harbour team that allegedly only seem to be interested in issuing berthing and similar fees to justify their jobs and the 300k a  year it costs to keep them running. If nothing else they have a big PR issue.

The harbour masters/patrols should not be "self appointed policeman" it is an area that could ultimately get them in a lot of trouble if they do so beyond their actual remit. It is up to the MMO/Fisheries to board if necessary and enforce any laws in relation to fishing. 

The harbour masters could only offer a suggestion about not fishing for Bass using sandeels they should not be attempting to interpret the law let alone enforce it. Nor mis advising people that they cannot fish for Bass in the "closed season".

It appears that although the Langstone Harbour Board have the order date incorrect they also interpret the prohibition as being the type of bait you use, not whether you actually fish for anything and get Bass as a result. http://www.langstoneharbour.org.uk/environment-fishing.php

It really pips me off when people with no rights to enforce anything let alone enforce a mis conception and try to pretend they have authority or even worse actually believe that they have when they don't. You don't need to be bullied around.

They would get short shrift from me if they tried to stop me fishing generally with rag worm on a drift through Langstone. Stick within the law yes, and do what is right in relation to conservation, but don't let yourselves be bullied about by some jobsworth who has no right to enforce anything let alone enforce something incorrectly.


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The only way the authorities could enforce this is to remove all ambiguity and introduce a blanket 'no fishing in the harbour' law.
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Originally posted by pablobrewster pablobrewster wrote:

The only way the authorities could enforce this is to remove all ambiguity and introduce a blanket 'no fishing in the harbour' law.
The law seems pretty clear as it stands without putting more restrictions on anglers. Fish any method you like except using Sandeels or imitations thereof and if you catch any Bass put them back. Unless you are using Sandeels or imitations it would be impossible to prove you were specifically targeting Bass.
 
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Paul,
Have I missed it or does none of the legislation say, If you accidentally catch a Bass whilst fishing for other species you must return it?
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The problem, from an enforcement point of view, is if someone catches a legal size bass in the harbour and keeps it, there is no way to prove it was caught in the harbour. All the illegal angler has to say is 'I got this one while out at sea, the law seems virtually unenforceable.
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This is very true and yet the harbours are full of Bass because the vast majority obey the rules and those that don't aren't enough to make a dent in the population.
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