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    Posted: 30 June 2010 at 6:03pm
Some of you may have noticed that I've put my aux engine up for sale in the classifieds below.
 
It wasnt an easy decision but....
 
1. I cant leave the aux securely at the club compound and it takes >1/2 my car boot to transport, meaning that I dont have much room for all the other gear.
2. Its a pain when its on the boat and gets in the way of fishing, especially if 3 are fishing
3. I'm scared to put it on when my daughter is wakeboarding in case it falls off and hits her (even though its tied on as well as clamped to the bracket to make double sure!  Crazy, I know, but I'm paranoid about this!)
4. I suspect that in some cases, especially on the longer trips, it wouldnt get me back to port anyway
 
Yes, I know, safety must come first,  and none of the above are that much of an issue. 
 
However, my current plan instead is to join Seastart which has good coverage in the Solent.  £150 pa and they will come out (hopefully fix the problem on-site for just the cost of the parts) and/or tow me back, even if I'm at the Nab.  For longer trips, I'd have to rely on the RNLI but then I think I would even with an aux (can you imagine 18 miles back from the Overfalls on a 4hp aux?).
 
Al's recent engine incident and the RNLI's first question to him on arrival at the scene ("Where's your aux?") have got me thinking again though.  Am I doing the right thing?
 
What are the views out there?  Do you have an aux?  Are you in SeaStart (I know that Ahab is)?  What are your recommendations?
 
I'm more than prepared to change my mind as its such an important decision.  Please help me make sure I get it right!!
 
Cheers
 
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my boats nearly finished and i wont be going anywhere without an aux espeically after my last trip with al lol.
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Dunc,
 
I have an aux, main reason is so I could get back under my own steam if the main engine goes,  rather than calling the coastguard/lifeboat.  It does not really matter to me if it takes a few hours to get back... if the weather turned bad, or the seas became dangerous when I was using the aux then I would call the coastguard.
 
I am also a member of Seastart, but have never had to use them. Also, I thought they only give you cover up to 3 miles out to sea?
 
If I had to choose, I would probably choose the aux over seastart.  (I keep it permanently rigged on the boat, on a marina berth).
 
So, it's a "Yes" for me....
 
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If your engine drops dead while in path of tanker you best hope sea start are bloody quick
I got sea start but I still got aux again just to get me to safe area
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Would have to go with an aux'. I have a warrior 165 which used to have twin 30's on, it took me 1+3/4 hrs to get in from Utopis to langstone in about  a 1' sea (flat out about 10mph) on one engine following a Tope v wiring contest, so I am realistic that my 5hp aux will probably struggle and could take maybe 5 hrs to get in, but, if your main engine fails an aux' will be able to keep you heading into a sea or wash and maybe get you out of danger if your up Selsey way while you wait for assistance. Thats my take on the problem, hope it helps.

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i got a sea gull and paddl, plus sea start. but like you i dont always take sea gull as it gets in the way.
but when out of sea start range its always on the back
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havnt got paperwork to hand but pretty sure those who are in ssea marina  get a free  recovery service from the channel i also thought sea start cover was a line selsey to st cats  to the needles  i have to check
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sea start operate up 3 miles from lland, but will go bit more if close to the limite
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they just got back yo me 3 miles south of selsey  3  south of st cats 3 south of needles  astrike a line to each  and they will go further if you are only 2 to 3 miles away

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Hi,
 
I am in sea start. I called them out once when I first got the boat (4 years ago now). I broke down near the Williams barges near Cracknore. They were with me in 1/2 hour. They couldn't get the 5L mercruiser engine going but towed me home.
 
It would be nice to have a kicker but it is all about balancing the risk. I make sure the engine maintenance is all up to date and I don't go out of easy-reach by Sea Start.  That means 20 miles south of St Catherines is not for me.  But it is only a 24 footer anyway.
 
I also arranged the batteries such that I don't run one down powering the fridge and can't start (Cranking + House arrangement). I carry a load of engine spares and a spare anchor etc etc.
 
I wouldn't want to carry a heavy aux around as well. On the other hand,  it would be useful for trolling but then I don't do much of that. I'd hate for all the fuel-line messing around as well. Extra fuel lines don't increase safety. MIght be different if the main is an outboard. You just swap the fuel line over.
 
I hope that helped, I really doubt it though. . . .
 
Terry
 
PS Sea start coverage is far better than you may think. . . http://www.seastart.co.uk/membership-information/areas-covered-by-seastart.html
 
 
Possibilities. Bayliner 2452 as per the avatar. Listening CH10 on the hour. Solent UK.

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