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A clip up and down rig - Event Date: 27 January 2014 - 27 February 2014

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    Posted: 27 January 2014 at 1:40pm
Hi I have been experimenting with a clip up and down rig i.e. from a loop made 150mm up from the lead/clip up to just below a swivel at the top of the trace then back down to lead/clip.
Problem it tangles at the upper clip.
The idea makes sense as it will give typically a 2m flowing trace or in wind or for a bit more distance for a not particularly strong caster like me a very compact trace say 300mm giving 600mm hooklength.
I being a cheap skate tend to use the line as a spring thus use 15 to 20lb mono for hooklength and tension with say 40 to 60lb trace mono.
Anyone got any thoughts.
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My two hook clip down rig rarely tangles 1. Ensure that the upper hook is at least 2 1/2 inches away from the beginning of the lower snood. 2. Use small booms to allow both snoods to rotate freely around the main rig body. 3. Don't make the snoods overly long - it makes no difference to the fish because they haven't got the brains so I only use the "long flowing traces" which some talk about when live baiting.
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This is a a rig i use alot, its probably my favourite as it presents the bait as naturally as possible.

the hooklength needs to be 30-40lb b.s ideally to prevent tangles.

Its exellent for rays, codling and bass imho


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I used to use this 'up and over' rig a lot too, I agree with Ray hook length needs to be 30-40lb. I also used the Gemini SRT spring and clip designed to hold the line in the top clip in place and under tension until the lead hits the water, hook releases releases the tension, top clip releases jobs a good un' (mostly) Big smile
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Thanks chaps very much
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Originally posted by ekyone ekyone wrote:

I used to use this 'up and over' rig a lot too, I agree with Ray hook length needs to be 30-40lb. I also used the Gemini SRT spring and clip designed to hold the line in the top clip in place and under tension until the lead hits the water, hook releases releases the tension, top clip releases jobs a good un' (mostly) Big smile


this is exacly how i used to set up, but ive found that when you have a big heavy bait, it can come unclipped mid air

So i now put a spring above the swivel that connects the hook length to the rig body, and at the top of the rig i use a Gemini genie rig clip upside down to loop the line over, i find it keeps everything clipped until it hits the water no matter what size bait you are using.
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The beauty Ihave found is how compact these rigs can be helping distance particularly, but also interestingly is much easier to stow/open up to use.
A 2ft trace gives a 4ft hook trace.
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